tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post4729632700026130317..comments2023-09-25T10:21:01.509-04:00Comments on Alcoholic Diary: Online anonymityNamenlosen Trinkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15233104063859778659noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-42799801381984724322007-10-16T02:38:00.000-04:002007-10-16T02:38:00.000-04:00Good posts (both the original and the follow-up). ...Good posts (both the original and the follow-up). I think there is a fundamental problem, with the idea that, "It's important to A.A. because if I were that reknowned and for some reason did pick up a drink, those who knew about my recovery and membership in A.A. would say, "See? It doesn't work.""<BR/><BR/>I've never looked at it this way before tonight, but doesn't there seem to be something both cryptic and arrogant about it. (I have spent the last few years believing exactly the opposite of what I am saying now.)<BR/><BR/>Who is an AA member to say that another member cannot express personal facts about his recovery? Either the "anonymity breaker" relapses or stays sober. What do members care about what outsiders say about the success or failings of the program? <BR/><BR/>Of course, the counterargument there is helping the newcomer. We don't want to turn off the newcomer. --> This line of thinking is old and no longer relevant. Companies that try to hide things from customers are dying. Why should an organization like AA be any different?<BR/><BR/>Stigma and public perceptions need not be worried about. The truth, in this society, will come out no matter what. <BR/><BR/>As far as being right-sized, I completely agree. It is my goal, with AllMyAffairs.com to drive donations to recovery causes and make enough of a living to be able to take the time from my life that such an effort requires. I have no interest in "exposing who I am," nor will there be some Paul Harvey moment down the road where anyone will know it is me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-14593795951108904912007-10-12T23:16:00.000-04:002007-10-12T23:16:00.000-04:00great post and great points you've made. i strugg...great post and great points you've made. i struggled with that when i began my blog until i found a comfy place, where i now reside online.<BR/><BR/>i too love bill and am watching him NOW. and reading your blog all at the same time! i've got talent, i tell you.<BR/><BR/>i have suspected him but never knew for sure.piglethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08597736641562363739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-34230922795157356552007-10-05T12:04:00.000-04:002007-10-05T12:04:00.000-04:00Kathy Lynne,I started to respond with a comment, b...Kathy Lynne,<BR/><BR/>I started to respond with a comment, but it got so long I decided to make my response a <A HREF="http://alcoholicdiary.blogspot.com/2007/10/more-on-anonymity.html" REL="nofollow">blog post</A>. I hope you read it.Namenlosen Trinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233104063859778659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-80754771328193345962007-10-05T05:59:00.000-04:002007-10-05T05:59:00.000-04:00So are you saying that a person can't talk about t...So are you saying that a person can't talk about the fact that he is in recovery at all or just that AA is what got him out. If the latter check out Craig Fergeson's monologue on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bbaRyDLMvA. Is what he said a problem?Kathy Lynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808513070742589781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-73682781892474652902007-10-03T23:13:00.000-04:002007-10-03T23:13:00.000-04:00Thank you for the compliment. I must say the same ...Thank you for the compliment. I must say the same about yours. I added you to my blog roll!<BR/><BR/>I think way too much. It makes things harder for me than they should be. I think things to death!<BR/><BR/>Anyway - have a great weekend. I am off!<BR/>Kindly,<BR/>K.Kathrin Ivanovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04907011262201598495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-25146789467013695282007-10-03T12:28:00.000-04:002007-10-03T12:28:00.000-04:00anybeth:It's a "bad thing" because it violates our...anybeth:<BR/><BR/>It's a "bad thing" because it violates our 11th Tradition: Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; <I>we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, ratio, and films</I> [emphasis added].<BR/><BR/>Yes, it's his own choice, because there are no A.A. police to come after him, but in my opinion I think he's making a big mistake. Even if he is the perfect poster child for A.A., he makes it easier for the rest of us to also break our own anonymity, and most of us alcoholics don't necessarily make the best walking, talking examples of what A.A. is all about. We try, but we often fail, because we're only human.Namenlosen Trinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233104063859778659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-76196897724719055032007-10-03T00:03:00.000-04:002007-10-03T00:03:00.000-04:00I don't get it, how is William Cope Moyers (Bill M...I don't get it, how is William Cope Moyers (Bill Moyer's son)doing a bad thing talking about his recovery? Augusten Burroughs (Dry)wrote about it, and so did Caroline Knapp (Drinking: A Love Story). Is it because his father is famous?<BR/>As long as he isn't "outing" other members, it's sort of his own choice, isn't it?Anybethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01193999238104640590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-67918822807234354342007-10-02T20:09:00.000-04:002007-10-02T20:09:00.000-04:00It's so nice to have a new person comment on my bl...It's so nice to have a new person comment on my blog. Thanks. I've been trudging the well known highway since 1989 and I like your common sense approach very much. <BR/>When I decided to blog I figured it might help someone else to see how it was for me...but I try to keep it low key and gentle...the hard core stuff I keep for my Sponsor. I will visit you often.Ginniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749133391349265563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7039047421436122024.post-46361517391705536772007-10-02T11:51:00.000-04:002007-10-02T11:51:00.000-04:00I like Bill Moyers alot, but he did a no no.I like Bill Moyers alot, but he did a no no.sharonsjourneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397338051674165096noreply@blogger.com